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Winged Humanoid: Part 4 by mernolan Winged Humanoid: Part 4 by mernolan
Part I|Part II|Part III|Part IV

EDIT 2013: KEEPING THESE THINGS UPDATED IS QUITE A CHORE but I've long since done other studies since 2011
mernolan.tumblr.com/post/53441…
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So, the other three parts were BASICALLY centered around Hans' anatomy cB
but I did want to show something where all that information applies

I'm chill with you using the other information, but DO NOT steal these character designs

Eric & Hans (c) ~mernolan
Sala (c) ~Silverflame88
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:iconraptorkil:
raptorkil Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
In your opinion, is it possible to create human birdwings irl (like this guy tried- www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYW5G2… )? Using some kind of mechanism that can work as the pectoral (for strength), and a steering mechanism like a tail that could even support the legs? It's kind of weird topic to talk about, but it has always been my dream to try to construct functional wings that you can take on and off. Then there would have to be a lightweight and sturdy material for bones/carcass,  + "muscles", and wing membranes. I'll have to dig further into physics, anatomy, mechanics and animatronics for that I guess XP Thank you for these guides btw, they're very nicely done :D
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:iconangelebonyrae:
angelebonyrae Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2014
I'm trying to draw a humanoid that I called a raven you don't mind if I favouret some of these do you?
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Professional Filmographer
go ahead!
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:iconkrazzyk123:
krazzyk123 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014
These tutorials have really helped me. I have always had trouble with drawing wings on anything (for instance humans!) Thanks so much for this!
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Professional Filmographer
no problem! i'm glad they help c:
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:iconmuzeng:
Muzeng Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013
you are amazing!! You're tutorials are the best so far. Please keep updating!
Also, could you somehow do a more detailed version for when the wings are folded?
I was hoping it could be more wrapped around the body (but idk if this is possible >< )
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Thanks! I'll see what I can do for folded wings ;)
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:iconmuzeng:
Muzeng Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013
ah and maybe something for the eyes? XD
I'm sure the person would also have advanced vision for looking far away..
:3
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2013  Professional Filmographer
there's all sorts of mix and matching you can do!
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:iconmuzeng:
Muzeng Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013
whoops, *your ;P
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Drag0n-Princess Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013
8D, YES!!!! This is so helpful :3
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013  Professional Filmographer
THANK i'm glad i could help c:
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:iconamadshad3:
amadshad3 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I just have a general question: Would adding a tail help at all with lifting legs in flight and therefore reducing drag, or would that not effect anything?
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2013  Professional Filmographer
PROBABLY. Depending on the length/weight of the legs, it might not actually do much in the way of preventing the legs from dangling, but it'll make the body more parallel to the ground, which is what you want.

I did things the hard way and DIDN'T add a tail/rudder in these examples because I wanted to draw attention to the logistics of flight
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:iconamadshad3:
amadshad3 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I just have a general question: Would adding a tail help at all with lifting legs in flight and therefore reducing drag, or would that not effect anything?
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TenthDoctor34 Featured By Owner May 4, 2013  Student
oh cool :D
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:iconmidnightelysium:
MidnightElysium Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2013  Student Digital Artist
This is super super super helpful. I'm taking Biology right now & I've always had an idea for a bird-like humanoid species, so trying to create a somewhat logical one was going to be so complicated if I didn't see this.

Super light weight bones would also be a must, our regular bones would be way too heavy for flight.

Thank you so much for making these!
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2013  Professional Filmographer
yesss although I am an art student, creating something that is mechanically/biologically sound is a really useful learning process!
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:iconmidnightelysium:
MidnightElysium Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2013  Student Digital Artist
haha yeah, & it makes the viewer believe it more which is always a plus
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Dacina Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
best tut ive seen so far. good job.
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013  Professional Filmographer
thanks!
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:iconelementaljess:
ElementalJess Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is awesome o_O
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Professional Filmographer
thanks!
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:iconksemanr2:
Ksemanr2 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012
But what about CLOTHES? A lot of media just has wings phasing through shirts
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Yeah I know - I leave it up to the artist to figure out clothes!
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Slipping-Star Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I actually give my wing-people tail feathers that they steer by lowering and raising each leg. They also have muscles in their back and butt for aid in turning it.
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2012  Professional Filmographer
makes sense to me c:
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:iconfeyoran:
Feyoran Featured By Owner Feb 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This looks...amazingly helpful. This is something I've been interested in for a while, so it's good to see someone actually dealing with the realities of humanoid wings. Out of curiosity, do you think that a human designed along these lines could hide their wings, or would they be too large for that (if the person in question was flight capable)?
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012  Professional Filmographer
I would say that some who is flight capable would have a very hard time hiding their wings, but i would also say that it would depend on the type of wing - bat-like wings are more flexible than say feathers and you might be able to get away with hiding everything below the wrist, but then there's the arm part that still has to be dealt with. What are the circumstances, would you hide them completely and make it a hassle to 'undress' to fly or just trying to make them less obvious? If I ever update this, I hope to include some notes on fashion for wings and the like :)
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:iconfeyoran:
Feyoran Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hmm, I was thinking of trying to make them as subtle as possible. The main reason was because I was thinking of a world where having a lot of wing visible would be sort of a faux pas, a showoffish thing, and the citizens are generally expected to keep them as folded in as much as possible. The main character wears a capey thing to hide them almost entirely, with only the sides visible, but his wings are on the larger side. I could imagine it as a matter of practicality, especially when in public. It'd probably be really annoying to have to hide them all the time, though. It'd be hard to hide them under clothes, probably hard to keep them folded in tightly all day...eh, there's just a lot of questions to go with it. But I'd love to see wing fashion! Wonder if specialty shops would spring up based on wing accessories or some such...hmm...
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2012  Professional Filmographer
If modesty is what you want, and its common place to have wings in your world, then something that is 'fashionable' and functional would be logical, like a shawl or capey as you mentioned, something that drapes over the shoulders and wings, but wouldn't make it difficult to fly. Successfully hiding them under shirts is impractical, because the wing size we are talking about are way too large for that.

Dressing them in layers is your best bet for modesty and function. I believe most wings would require and open back, so that alone brings up winter fashion. With feather wings, the clothing can taper around the base of the wings because its all just a lot of feathers, membrane wings however would attach to the back/hip/legs etc and wouldn't allow for any back to an article of clothing and maybe even affect leg wear.

hope that helps :) I'm happy to help if you have more questions
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:iconangel31fire:
angel31fire Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow, this will sure be helpfull for me since the characters in the story are winged humans to. Are you going to do the same thing for female winged humanoids ? Cause the main characters in my story are girls.
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Professional Filmographer
men and women are more or less structurally the same except that men are obviously bigger than women and the difference in the pelvic bone [link] men and women have all the same muscles too, just in varying degree, and women pectorals are covered up in some degree by breasts.
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:iconangel31fire:
angel31fire Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh ok,thanks for the info. I'll remember that for the design of my characters.
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DaRkMaYu Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2012
thank you,this is going to be really helpful =)
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:iconizbeez:
IzBeEz Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2012
well, this is very interesting. Good stuff to know. :)
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2012  Professional Filmographer
thanks!
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:iconmetalhyena:
MetalHyena Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
THanks so much for posting these This helps so much!
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2012  Professional Filmographer
no problem!
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:iconashnkatt:
ashnkatt Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Student General Artist
Hello again Mithia :) I think I left a msg some time ago, anyway I've created a different character and need your advice on if you think the back musculature looks theoretically plausible for her, suggestions welcome!
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2011  Professional Filmographer
sure no problem, i'll redline any sketches or whatever you have :)
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:iconashnkatt:
ashnkatt Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2011  Student General Artist
ah thanx, I wasn't sure if you would be too busy n' stuff what with other pple asking for advice on avian human hybrids, ^_^ anyway heres the aforementioned link [link] let me know what you think? :)
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2011  Professional Filmographer
no problem, I'll get back to you as soon as I am able :)
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:iconashnkatt:
ashnkatt Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2011  Student General Artist
thanx, its all good. Take your time, I know pple get busy n' stuuuff :)
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:iconangelicmisery:
AngelicMisery Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
After reading all of your winged humanoid tutorials, I thank you extensively for them. I have been trying to make all of my OCs more anatomically correct and many of my feather-winged OCs looked strange to me. Many made me wonder how they were even airborne and some, even now that I am correcting thier anatomy, still bother me. Besides looking at birds, I had been using dragons to get around the double shoulder issue. However, applying that design to humans was difficult especially since most dragons have bat wings and are quadrapedal. Plus, finding good winged human anatomy is hard. There aren't enough good references to be found honestly. This is a beautiful study into how the body would function with wings. I really can't thank you enough.
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2011  Professional Filmographer
thank you! my inspiration for doing these was the lack of any other tutorials on this when i was trying to figure it out. I hope people make more though! I like seeing the different theories behind this sort of anatomy :)
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:iconangelicmisery:
AngelicMisery Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Your Welcome. I might give my hand at it using some of my OCs to illustrate my problems with the wings I see people draw....I've almost completely remastered and revamped one of my demon OCs because he literally wouldn't have been able to fly... 8 ft wingspan on a 6 ft guy....doesn't work too well... xD So now that same demon is floating around on turkey vulture wings with a 20 ft wing span ^^
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2011  Professional Filmographer
all it takes is a little bit of research and some common sense :)
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:iconangelicmisery:
AngelicMisery Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Mmhmm....I've even modified my harpy to be more correct....that one was hard....he has the hollow bones and all but still....getting a large wingspan when the arms are the wings is harder ^^
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:iconmernolan:
mernolan Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2011  Professional Filmographer
That should be easier since you don't have arms in the way lol
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